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Marco Annunziata's avatar

Thanks Hannah, extremely useful, and articles where the conclusion is "there is no correlation" are especially valuable because they are rare.

You say you are cautious about cross-country comparisons, but Bjorn Lomborg had a piece in the WSJ where his chart showed a very clear and positive correlation between share of renewables and price of electricity across countries (what Joel was asking in another comment), and I am curious if you have a view on it: if his data are correct, is there a reason why we see such a clear correlation across countries but no correlation across US states?

Thanks again for a great post

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Geoffrey G's avatar

Here in Sweden (where the grid is 100% renewable, mostly hydro, nuclear, and wind), electricity prices vary a lot not by state, but by electricity zone, with the depopulated (but high-renewable-supply) north 4x cheaper than the South, where most people live and where there isn't as much hydro or local supply generally. I live right in the center in a more expensive electricity zone and my electricity costs what the cheapest US states charge here. That's including the higher VAT tax we pay and increasingly high transmission charges to fund the build out of a more robust grid. In the North, electricity costs 1/10th or even 1/20th of what Americans pay. A reason for the regional disparity is that we do have a national (and region-wide) grid, but it doesn't have enough North-South transmission capacity to even out supply. That's something that the higher transmission charges are going towards funding in the years to come.

It's a good thing electricity is very cheap in Sweden, too, because we do use a lot of it, especially in the cold winters for heating. Unlike in the United States where natural gas and fuel oil can predominate for heating, almost all heating here is from efficient, electricity-powered heat-pumps. It's really strange to me that that technology, which has been operating at scale in the Nordics for 30-40 years, is really niche and considered insufficient in the US. Why wouldn't people in those states with cheaper 12-cent electricity take advantage? Even if you use a less high-performance Nordic-style system adapted to Arctic cold, you can install a lesser one very cheaply that would perform very well for more mild winters in the Southern half of the US. And, many of the cheaper air-source systems also operate as an AC, too!

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